What would do good?

[steer]

Pretty much the same thing Steer maybe just the wording I used calling it a franchise . Target buys the merchandise , staffs the store and pays a percentage of the sales to Starbucks . They also use only Starbucks equipment

"A franchise always includes a license of the brand and operating methods, along with assistance (training, an operations manual, etc.) or support (providing advice, quality control, inspections, etc.). "

Yeah, I know it's pretty much the same thing. A lot of people don't really know the difference between a complete franchising, and a licensing. I was insulting you.

[steer]

As PVFAN said we need a good Sports Bar in Norton. A nice place similar to Bailey's or that type design. Big, wide open space, with numerous TV's all over the place. Be known as the place with the largest number of beers on tap (which around here wouldn't be hard) Mosby's used to have 19 on tap, most other places have 3 or 4.

Have all the games PPV events, packages, etc to draw in the crowd. Have pool tables, dart boards, etc and run tournaments on select weekends.

Limit your food options to what most bars would sell (wings, appetizers, sandwiches, and a few larger entree type meals)

Just a thought, that would be something I would imagine would go over very, very well around here. Make it authentic to the area, doesn't have to be a chain. Call it "The Varsity" or something like that and have different sections of the building in honor of local athletes who went pro, local schools, their accomplishments, etc.

The bad part of the sports bar, selling beer and offering free games/ppv... the beer and food isn't going to cover that when your main customers are poor college kids.

[yankeebaseball]

Make a place like Knights in JC, have beer on tap (diff kinds of beer that is, not just the big 3) and have specials (Tues and Thurs after ten all beers 2 bucks; yes that includes guniess, newcastle and all sorts of craft beers) sell pizza by the slice and other pub food. Make it big enough to have a open mic night for acoustic music through the week to draw in crowds. Have specials for college students (alcohol and food) then sit back and get fat off of 50 yrs of idiots not taking advantage of a cash cow.

[JJK guy]

The bad part of the sports bar, selling beer and offering free games/ppv... the beer and food isn't going to cover that when your main customers are poor college kids.

I don't know about that. Go to any college town in the world and most of the bars nearby are sports bars. I don't know why but the area around UVa-Wise is totally underutilized as a place to make money...put any kind of service industry business around there and I guarantee you it would succeed if it were run well. There's no place even close to walking distance from the college. When I was a college student, we almost always went out to eat and drink somewhere that we could walk to...nobody has to DD and no DUIs. College kids may not all have tons of money to throw around...but they always seem to have enough to buy food and drinks.

[UTVols2]

Make a place like Knights in JC, have beer on tap (diff kinds of beer that is, not just the big 3) and have specials (Tues and Thurs after ten all beers 2 bucks; yes that includes guniess, newcastle and all sorts of craft beers) sell pizza by the slice and other pub food. Make it big enough to have a open mic night for acoustic music through the week to draw in crowds. Have specials for college students (alcohol and food) then sit back and get fat off of 50 yrs of idiots not taking advantage of a cash cow.

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I love Knights, that sounds good to me.

[TheBeast]

Make a place like Knights in JC, have beer on tap (diff kinds of beer that is, not just the big 3) and have specials (Tues and Thurs after ten all beers 2 bucks; yes that includes guniess, newcastle and all sorts of craft beers) sell pizza by the slice and other pub food. Make it big enough to have a open mic night for acoustic music through the week to draw in crowds. Have specials for college students (alcohol and food) then sit back and get fat off of 50 yrs of idiots not taking advantage of a cash cow.

I don't know about that. Go to any college town in the world and most of the bars nearby are sports bars. I don't know why but the area around UVa-Wise is totally underutilized as a place to make money...put any kind of service industry business around there and I guarantee you it would succeed if it were run well. There's no place even close to walking distance from the college. When I was a college student, we almost always went out to eat and drink somewhere that we could walk to...nobody has to DD and no DUIs. College kids may not all have tons of money to throw around...but they always seem to have enough to buy food and drinks.

You are trying to compare a school with an enrollment of 1800 at least half being underage to schools with an enrollment of 15,000. You also have to consider that a place like Knights isn't just drawing from ETSU but also Milligan (1100), Tusculum (2600), and Northeast State (6600). Then they are also drawing from a general population of 60,000+ just in town, also from Piney Flats, Jonesborough, Elizabethton. Someone mentioned within walking distance from the college which puts you in downtown Wise or at the old Poor Farm at best. As I said before this place just serving all these different types of beers and appetizers like you suggested would have to be packed nearly every night not just Friday/Saturday. Then you have to look at the students you are relying on won't even be around 2-3 months out of the year.

[UTVols2]

If properly run any business can be successful, just depends on what your expectations are.

[imported_elp6n]

Make a place like Knights in JC, have beer on tap (diff kinds of beer that is, not just the big 3) and have specials (Tues and Thurs after ten all beers 2 bucks; yes that includes guniess, newcastle and all sorts of craft beers) sell pizza by the slice and other pub food. Make it big enough to have a open mic night for acoustic music through the week to draw in crowds. Have specials for college students (alcohol and food) then sit back and get fat off of 50 yrs of idiots not taking advantage of a cash cow.

An establishment just like this tanked hard and fast in Blacksburg recently, not sure they even lasted a year. It was in a new shopping area of town (on the Blacksburg Transit line), custom built, believe there were 10 beers on tap, entertainment, food, etc. It was the only place like this in town, and 27,000 students couldn't keep this place open.

No guarantees for any place, anywhere.

[imported_elp6n]

I couldn't agree more!!!! I have two cats and have to go to Kingsport to get their food. It is at Pet Smart, but I can't even get any store around here to stock it. It's one of the premium brands. People look at me like I'm crazy when I check out with seven or eight cases of food. I tell them them I'm from Wise and can't get the food anywhere around here. The reply I ALWAYS get is "We get alot of people from over in that area." Cat people spend too!!

A mentioned by someone else, it's not the chew toys and collars that we're after. We have repeat business buying high-end foods and supplies. Our pets have to eat every day, and my dogs dont eat from a $20, 40 pound bag of Ol' Roy. We do it because we know what we feed our pets and give as treats has an impact on what we have to spend on veterinary care in the long term. The food we pick even has everything to do with how they smell, their activity levels, etc.

If I can go to Bristol on a regular basis for raw bones and food (using almost a tank of gas), I'd gladly go to downtown anywhere in Wise County or any closer county.

[1inStripes]

Pal's. I hear they do well in Wise County........